US GDP

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US Gross Domestic Product, from 1930:


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Data from the Saint Louis Fed, Seasonally adjusted, annual data from 1930 to 1947, then quarterly to present.

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September 17, 2007

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May 24, 2008

Tom @ 10:41 am #

Horse crap. Are you claiming that the US outputs half of what it outputted six years ago?

Gold is a commodity, like any other, and is currently in the midst of a speculative bubble, and it is this surge in speculation that has caused the apparent decline in US GDP that your chart displays.

October 7, 2009

HUH? @ 9:39 am #

Well its a year + later. And the "bubble" is still in progress.

As for output cut in half… no, it could be even more…!

June 24, 2010

buy gold bullion @ 12:25 am #

I agree, I reckon the output is less than half what it was 2003/4.

August 14, 2010

Hey, nice site you got here! Keep up the excellent job

September 7, 2010

Bob @ 8:16 am #

Great site. Can you please do US GDP in barrels of oil and other commodities? It's so hard to find this kind of information.

September 8, 2010
January 25, 2011

FASCINATING @ 4:14 am #

HOUSTON WE REALY HAVE A PROBLEM! THIS IS A LOSS OF 2/3 OF THE NATIONAL OUTPUT WE ARE – …!
bUT AS MY FRIEND SCHWARTZ SAID THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

March 28, 2011

boatman @ 12:19 pm #

3 years later, how's that 'speculative bubble' workin tom?

answer: 6 years left of a secular bull

May 28, 2011

FASCINATING @ 10:55 am #

As goes the GDP so goes the disposable income. IT'S SURVIVAL MODE ONLY!!!!
HOW LONG DID YOU SAY THE BACKUP BATTERIES WILL LAST?

June 19, 2011

FASCINATING @ 7:25 am #

Houston, we can't cut anything.

August 21, 2011

Gromit @ 4:08 pm #

Cool Chart, really illustrates the hoax that GDP is when put in a commodity its waaaaaay down. Would be nice to see some sort of honest aggregate like oil, wheat, silver, gold, copper etc all together, im sure the curve would be the same in general but a bit softer. You know things are really bad when you can look up US GDP output and see that even in their bogus terms its falling. In real terms its catastrophic.

September 7, 2011

curtis @ 3:35 pm #

tom is wrong, i think. It doesn't matter if gold is in a speculative bubble, dollarwise. These comparison charts remove dollars from the equation, purely comparing values as if gold were traded directly for the item in question. The dollar is only used to find current prices, which simply illuminates what the markets are deeming each commodity's worth to be.

I don't see how these numbers can lie. GDP, if accurately reported, is a dependable figure. Gold is a commodity with a price. The fact is, this chart shows the that the price of gold versus the price of the GDP IS THIS. period. Speculative bubble or not, everybody is in agreement with what gold is worth in dollar terms, or its price wouldn't be what it is. it functions at that level.

And is it so outrageous that the US can't produce product at an infinitely expanding rate? Nothing grows forever

September 15, 2011

Candy @ 9:55 am #

I bet Tom is wishing he had invested in the gold "bubble" back in '08….like I did. Our GDP has been inflation driven not growth driven. The government has the incentive to cover that up…. smaller payouts to SSI. Even today they are still saying there is virtually no inflation, welcome to the real world.

September 23, 2011

FASCINATING @ 10:50 pm #

Less and less items produced by this country are worth its weight in gold.However, poroduce we must. Ever more dubious means of exchange for ever more dubious goods and services-mostly services these days-keep people off the streets too exhausted to notice a decrease in standard of living(and of wealth) that the plunging curve signifies.

October 8, 2011

FASCINATING @ 12:32 pm #

I Know a person that bought a house in Jersey Wycof area in 1950 for 20K 2K down at 2.1% for 30 years. Sounds about right. Disorganized desperate workforce and teabagger cuts spell only one thing DEFLATION.

December 14, 2011

James Best @ 12:47 pm #

@ Gromit (and anyone else)

If you want a graph which measures GDP in terms of a more honest aggregate then just find a graph plotting the US Real GDP. Measuring the US economy by the amount of gold it can buy is absurd. Its just a rather complicated way of showing the change in the price of gold relative to the growth of the US economy.

And yes the price of gold has increased a lot relative to everything. This is largely due to it being a focal point for investors in times of uncertainty. It will come crashing down if/when the global economy recovers. The price of gold is very volatile, it has crashed before and will crash again. If you are holding it be ready to jump, but if you don't know that already there's no chance that you'll jump in time: people who are well informed and speculating by investing in gold will be able to sell their gold before you when the market takes a down turn. They will have made a lot by investing in gold, you probably won't have: the lucky people who bought back in 2005 or earlier will probably do no worse than break even. After that who knows.

January 4, 2012

FASCINATING @ 8:10 am #

TRUE, gold is strictly buy and hold (forget). No Day Trading Here!
The only reason Europe did'nt sink yet is because the principal players (Excluding Eastern Europe) are sitting on TozNS of Gold. These guys are not selling any time soon. (Debt Shmebt). We'll monetize it while keeping middle class strugling (paper with immages on it being recognized(marketed) in exchange for survival). Meanwhile in the US – we produce Chevys with front brake pads missing. Produce we Must = survival.

January 6, 2012

FASCINATING @ 4:56 pm #

The Question Is What will US standard of living Look Like when Equilibrium is reached, i.e. when US GDP is more valuable tnan gold.HOUSTON, Hope there is no pocyclipse in the equation!

June 12, 2012

Sam @ 4:17 pm #

The GDP rises with inflation. There is very little substance in it.

June 27, 2012

David @ 10:16 pm #

When did the current fall-off start? It looks like it was about 2001-2002. The economy was able to run on fumes for another five years or so, but eventually reality bit us in the you-know-where. It's really surprising that the drop-offs are that sharp.

July 13, 2012

FASCINATING @ 8:30 pm #

Yes indeed, The 2% or so FED sponsored inflation showes in the goods and services – mostly services- output of US. The capital markets do not invest in factories or rails or stuff, its all QUants run casino where the probability of trend up or down is the basic reason for investment. This is leveraged to the hilt. 700 Trillion – probably more, we talking Quintilions. This is the reason why JPMChase still makes profit after loosing 10 billion.
These are huge ammounts racing in the algorithms. From what counterparties do they suck up the gains? Looks like Masterbation to me. Houston!, you playin with yourself while we crash?

March 18, 2013

FASCINATING @ 3:13 am #

Captain All I am suggesting is that if you increase your power by 2% and the Thalians Web cavitational vortices increase by 2% you get 0% net movement. Look what happened to Capt. EuroDecker. He Decided to cut power and now He is stuck to the Web and slowly being digested in the trap.
I would suggest to remove the Ferenges from the anti-matter reactor room and do some di-lithium redistribution and increase the warp factor without (this has no meaning to us Vulcans) overflowing the toilets.

June 22, 2013

FASCINATING @ 2:07 pm #

Sooo being stuck in a liquidity trap actually stabilizes one's GDP.

July 1, 2013

Kenn Johnsen @ 2:21 pm #

The US GDP is dropping at an alarming rate, also in dollars ( not inflated dollars ) John Williams Shadow Government statistics shows it is dropping at around 2% a year, since 2000?

July 7, 2013

FASCINATING @ 7:34 am #

OK, Ben B. opened his mouth and mini crash followed. President O. made references to Ben B. being history on C. Rose (true gem on PBS). Ben B. shut up and coughed up another 100 B. a Month to keep everybody happy. You Don't Have to be a Vulcan to see the logical conclusion to this. Or mabe you have to be a Vulcan.

August 7, 2013

Fascinated @ 7:01 am #

Am I wrong? or does it bother anyone else that GDP peaks at 1200 billion grams, isn't there under 200 billion grams (unmined) in the world?

October 2, 2013

FASCINATING @ 2:46 am #

"You can’t “buy” a country’s GDP; it’s a theoretical summation of all of a country’s transactions." That is correct, It is not subject to Supply Demand markets. However massaged, it shows-if massaged according to consistent rules and compared to gold-the relative wealth of a nation. Right now US Goods and Services is 10% Goods and 90% Services.
Sooo what that mean? The Future of US depends on 10% manufacturing and the rest depends on my travel agent calling my tennis coach so together they can open a nail salon. And it shows.

January 21, 2014

FASCINATING @ 11:22 am #

This is a Didn't Shouldn't Question:
Didn't Gold Burst a bubble recently and Shouldn't we be getting a spike in GDP Worth?
Could it be that Gold and GDP went into the toilet at the same time?
I am just pointing out It Could be that US GDP is draging down the price of gold-WOW.
It's good to be in the 0.1 % right now.

January 26, 2014

P Krugman @ 10:57 am #

@James Best: I hope your right this way I can buy, but the reality is that the last time gold went on a long term downturn, was when volker set interest rates to above 20%. Nowadays The US can't afford anything but 0% interest rates.

FASCINATING @ 3:29 pm #

One phrase comes to mind – LIQUIDITY TRAP. Uniform misery. Bouncing about The bottom.
The 64 bitcoin Question what to do other than WAR?
It's good to be in the 0.1 % right now.

July 30, 2014

FASCINATING @ 2:56 am #

Kapt'n I am merely stating that the Hollowed Out Economy is swallowing up Huge amounts of stimuli-both "seecret process" Paper(Mentally associated with surviva) lndeeded and the Economy "is really great" media psychobabble for this logically to be anything but a vitual Liquidity Black Hole. Scotty you got some of that Single Malt Klingon Killer, Thats for the human half.

FASCINATING @ 3:15 am #

DATA you IDIOT you replace those DI-Lithium crystals with GOLD will spin out of contol into the vortex.

October 17, 2014

The banker @ 1:09 pm #

@Tom:
Gold is not in a speculative bubble, and Gold price per ounce surge is not disfavoring the GDP. The federal Reserve is destroying the value of the u.s dollar ever since its founding in 1913. The proper way to value a currency ( not taught in school) is to equate $1 to 1 ounce of gold. if that was the case then we would not be in a recession every now and then. The federal reserve manipulation of the price of money is what is killing the dollars' value and so the Government added to that by over spending, which throw their annual budget out of balance ever from the time their over spending began. Check the figures of the debt increases from WW1 TO WW2 and the Korean war, the Vietnam war, military bases all the world, the Iraqi war of 2003 plus war on terrorism. All these things cost money. The money the government uses is called "borrowed money with a price". The federal reserve is the sole non-government agency that set the price of money for the government bonds and the discount rate for the commercial banks. The fed's ability to print more currency eats away at the purchasing power of previous dollars lent out by them. In so doing creates price inflation which inflates certain assets classes and set the precedence for a rate increase. If the rate keep moving up and down as the fed see fit, then what we will have is the devaluation of the currency overtime.

The surging price of gold per ounce is telling you something about the dollar's value at hand. Investors who know what the fed is doing, is edging themselves against the devaluation of the dollar, the u.s government is also adding to the escalation of a u.s dollar default. International creditors will sooner and later decide to create a run on the dollar and rush to get as many gold bullion as they can to avoid their paper holding from being wiped out. The Gold price is reflecting common sense, while the price is no too high get more of it before it does. The reasons why the U.S GDP output declines is because where the commercial banks chose to allocate credit is in those firms that have invested a part of that money the equities market which as you know have an element of risk. Most of the money is not going to finance new business start ups and manufacturing. With out those two pillars erected and maintain the country will not have the manufacturing facility to be producing more out put. As a result GDP output falls, but prices will keep rising as business try to acquire more revenues through their sales column as a result the GDP will appear as if it is increased. The GDP comes at a cost, that cost goes back to the price of money control by fed. When the lowers the discount rate it is only for a short term , then when the inflation in prices sets in again on the market, they will increase the discount rate incrementally, the fed funds rate is set either.25 basis points or sometimes .50 basis point below the discount rate, the prime loan rates will be set by the individual commercial banks which in turns set the real price of money to the overhaul economy. These rates will reflect themselves in the prices of good & services that quantifies the GDP. If the GDP true output as fallen, it is because of the increase in the cost of loans.
Businesses will cut back on what they can spend, and add that to their bottom line where they can, not in all cases though. The inflation rate must be subtracted from nominal GDP estimated growth rate so we can have the real GDP GROWTH RATE. the inflation rate serves a factor of the GDP Deflator. The inflation rate added together with a CPI INDEX base year.

For example; If inflation rate is 2.5% then convert that to a decimal and 0.025, then use a base year of 100. it is setup like this: 1.025 the 1 represent 100% of the base year, it could be any year CPI index. then to find what the real GDP is just: if the GDP is $16,800,000,000,000 divide by 1.025 $16,800,000,000,000/1.025= $16,390,243,902,439.02 becomes the real GDP estimate adjusted for inflation. The GDP deflator is the: 1.025

To increase real GDP growth output, new products and new business must be financed and export markets targeted. You cant account for all the total dollar values of your GDP from inside the U.S alone, we have to export more, and correct our trade account imbalances to a positive current account balance.

i hope that helps clear things up !

YHWH ALHYM YHWSHA be praised.

October 18, 2014

FASCINATING @ 4:38 pm #

The truth is That US has become a Raw Material Supplying to the true producers,Service oriented consumer driven Economy. Its swimming in things (like back scratching, and tunnels for faster data transmission) that are not worth their weight in gold-or mabe to a few people. The GDP generating middle class has been slowly stripped of all the perks that helped them to be productive in the past. Add to it Destructive Competition that destroys the earning power of the middle level of the proffesions,and you got the 30s all over again. The graph shows that.
It is not the same though because we are not that stupid not to learn from the experience. But we can be duped to fall into the hole again. Every generation has to contain its own con men and women. What happens to the QE3,4,5 etc dollars thou. It end up with the 1% causing inflation in collectibles, mansions, stocks etc. Stocks Fall, Money disapear-Perfect! Ultimately Highly Logical.

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